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Old 01-22-2004, 07:21 PM   #1
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I have the chance to buy a Walther PP with the following marks--

Left slide-Waffenfabrik Walther Zella Methlis (Thur)
Walther Patent Cal 7.65 m/m Mod PP

Right slide has a spread eagle with an "N" under it.This mark is also on the barrel viewed thru the ejection port.

The S/N is 179962P. The hammer spur is bobbed and the grips look like plastic. Any info on this gun will be greatly appreciated.

Thank You Al
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Old 01-22-2004, 09:39 PM   #2
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This would be a post April 1940, wartime production, manufactured weapon. Grips should be black plastic, with Walther banner (later they became wood).

When you say the hammer spur is bobbed, what exactly do you mean? The markings you can see thrrough the ejection port are actually the marking on the frame, as barrel is pressed into frame at this point. There should be another Eagle over N at the business end of the barrel.

Are there any additional marking around the magazine release?
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Old 01-23-2004, 10:09 PM   #3
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Thanks for the response--After looking at some other Walthers, I realized that all have bobbed hammers. There is an "N" stamping on the end of the barrel but no marks close to the magazine release. The holster holds a spare mag and shows considerable wear but the pistol has only a little wear at the muzzle. Al
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Old 01-24-2004, 12:34 AM   #4
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Al,

Your PP was made around 1941 to 1942. It's hard to say for sure, because most of Walther's records were destroyed in the War, but it is fairly safe to say it was the early 1940's.

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Old 01-24-2004, 09:16 AM   #5
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Thanks Devin--I'm assuming the "N" mark means it's military and not civilian. Is this correct??--Al
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Old 01-24-2004, 09:42 AM   #6
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The Eagle over N, and the earlier Crown over N proof markings, are only that, proof markings. The N actually indicates that it has been tested and passed test firing with "Nitro" powder.

Military proofs are different, normally an Eagle with "Wa359" or "359". These kind of proof markings would be found around the magazine release.

Even on Walther accepted military weapons, you will also find the Eagle over N proof (in addition to the militray proofs).

The weapon you have is a commercial model, which may have been used as a personal sidearm of an officer in the German military.

Does the weapon have a loaded chamber indicator?
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Old 01-24-2004, 10:14 PM   #7
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If that is the little pin that sticks out above the hammer, yes--
If not, where is it??--Al
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