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Old 02-10-2017, 03:51 PM   #1
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PPK in .380 any good?

Hi. I'm a newby here on the forum as well as with Walther handguns. I may be offered a PPK in .380 for free but want to know if is better as, the same or not as good as the PPK 7.65mm? I like the PP in 7.65mm and currently have one booked for me, but if the PPK in 9mm kurtz is as good then I will have to make a difficult decision.

I have read that the .380 Walther is not as reliable as the .32?

Any help and advice will be appreciated.

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A PPK in .380 manufactured by whom? Makes a big difference.
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The PP-series pistol was originally designed for the 7.65. As such, 9mm kurz is at the upper limit of what the design can handle, and consequently finding a reliable PP-series in this caliber can be a challenge. But there are reliable ones out there, and those that are not can probably be made to run reliably if they've not been buggered up by some clueless, tinkering previous owner.

I've two Interarms/Ranger PPK/S pistols in this caliber. One I never could get to run correctly, and the other ran rather well on FMJ and Remington 88-grain hollow point. I have a S&W PPK/S in 9mm kurz that eats anything I feed it, but many owners have not been as lucky, especially with pistols that were manufactured during the recall years.

My take — if it's being offered gratis, take the chance by all means. I'd even chance it for several hundred, as I recently purchased an Interarms/Ranger PPK in that caliber that I plan on restoring at some point.
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Free? Take it! Try it, but it will be a bear to handle in racking the slide, and will kick like a mule in heat warning off the farm hands.
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I am not sure, but in South Africa I believe you are limited as to how many handguns you may own, unlike here in the US where can have a safe full.

If this is the case, then Deserthuntr may be able to obtain only one of these firearms. His dilemma might be to wait for the 7.62 that he is currently in the lengthy process of obtaining, or cancel that and go with a free 9 mm Kurtz that he is not sure of. Otherwise, a freebie would be a no brainer.

Deserthuntr, I hope I am not overstepping my bounds by trying to explain your situation.

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We still need to know the manufacturer.
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We still need to know the manufacturer.

In S. Africa I would think it would almost have to be a ZM or Ulm Walther.


I personally would always opt for a 7.65 over a 9mmk. I don't know if I could live with a 1 gun policy but if I did it would almost certainly be a 7.65 PPK.
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I'm inclined to agree with Jimbo, tho' we don't know what the OP wants to do with the pistol.
Yeah, the .380s can be cranky and rappy, while the .32 is a day at the beach.
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In S. Africa I would think it would almost have to be a ZM or Ulm Walther.
One could think so but if you look at Switzerland then you'll find the following strange relationship: Here most of the omnipresent PPK models are European made 7.65mm (and .22lr of course). But if I come accross a 9mm kurz from time to time then in most cases it's a SS Ranger. I've seen an uncountable number of PPK models but I can't remember that I've ever had a blued Ranger in my hands. The newer ones made by S&W are more or less non-existent anyway. The markets outside the U.S. are quite different.

I'm curious too about Ian's answer regarding the manufacturer. But my recommendation is already fixed: I'd take the comfortable 7.65mm PP first and then the 9mm kurz to widen my collection.

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I wonder if there was ever an American made PPK or PPK/S saying "9mm kurtz" on the slide... Sorry, I couldn't resist.
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