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Old 03-09-2013, 01:58 AM   #1
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WW2 production 22lr PP

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Hi everyone, this is my first post here so please be patient with me. I have wanted a Walther PP for quite a while now, and a few weeks back, on an impulse, I picked up a WW2 production 22lr PP at a gun show. The serial number is 257XXXP and there is the eagle n proof on the chamber, barrel, and slide right above the extractor. There is some holster wear and the bluing on the grip straps is worn, but otherwise it is in beautiful shape. I was told by the seller that he bought it off a gentleman who smuggled it in a boot out of Germany after WW2. Not sure if this is true, but at least it makes a good story. What can you guys tell me about this pistol? What was it used for? Could there be any military connection here? And lastly, the all important question: what is it worth (ballpark estimate is fine)? Thanks for all the help guys!
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Old 03-09-2013, 03:22 AM   #2
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Your PP was made in 1942. It's a commercial gun (what I can see on the pics). The caliber was used (and marketed by Walther) for training application. Not many of these were made at this time, because it's not a military used caliber.
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Your Walther .22LR Eagle/N proofed Commercial PP is one of 4400 made in the serial number range of 168000P - 313000P. It has the late WWII type frame without the step at the trigger guard pin.
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For value I'd go to Simpson Ltd. - Collectors Firearms and find one similar to yours in serial number and condition. My guess would in the $1000 - $ 1500 range but I'm using my mobile phone so it's hard to see the photos.
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Value? Year made? What do I have? Please start here first

Always a great place to start ...
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Be patient with you? Your first post is gloating about a gorgeous PP, .22 caliber and WWII to boot. And you want us to be patient?!?!?! We may never let you post again.

(Kidding) Nice gun. Good luck with it.
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Old 03-09-2013, 06:26 PM   #6
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Well, just took it out shooting again today and it ran like a champ. Digested 300 or so rounds of both round and hollow point bulk pack budget ammo with only one failure to ignite. Zero problems feeding and ejecting as long as one racks the slide quickly. Really couldn't ask for more.

You guys mentioned that such a gun was commercial, but it could be used for training purposes. Is there any way to identify a military trainer?
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Old 03-09-2013, 11:38 PM   #7
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By "commercial" we mean that it doesn't have any military, police, or civil government markings other than the Eagle/N proofs. It may have been used as a military or police trainer or purchased by an officer as a personal sidearm. Unfortunately, there's no way to know without documentation.
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Here's my 1942 .22LR Walther PP and it's original holster. Despite some hard use during the war it's reliable and fun to shoot.
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Old 03-10-2013, 03:26 AM   #8
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Were these .22s popular as sidearms? It seems that with ammo availability and supply lines, not to mention better ballistics, the .32 PP would indisputably be the better choice.
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145000 PP were made (168000P-313000P, 1940-1943), 4400 of these chambered in .22lr. I think that answers your question.
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You have a very nice pistol, from one of the most important times in human history.

Cherish it not only for it's utility as a fine firearm, but for it's place as a window on a time that still shapes the world we live in today.
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