carl walther model ppk/s bb

newattitudes · 01-16-2013, 09:54 PM

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To whom it may concern please: I resently bought a (Carl Walther Waffenfabrik Ulm/Do. Model PPK/S Cal.9mm kurz/.380ACP) printed on one side and (INTERARMS Alexandria,Virginia) on the other side with sereal # (SOOO439). can you possibly tell me exactly where this gun was made and the date and year please.Also if possible I need a owners manual.I would be very greatful for any help reguarding this request. Respectfully, Thomas F. Brindley

mako · 01-17-2013, 01:54 AM

You can probably start here.

Some websites to help PP/PPK owners ID their guns

For manuals you can try Earls
http://www.carlwalther.com/books.htm#Manuals

Gunbroker and Ebay oftentimes have them as well.

Martin · 01-17-2013, 06:30 AM

There is no list to date an Interarms/Ranger (=> Gadsden, Alabama, Mid-South Industries Inc.) gun, but you'll find a thread with reported serial numbers here. After some research (just for you

) I found a number near to yours (S000944): Test target date 8/9/83.

A manual for the Walther PP/PPK you'll find here. It's not exactly what you want but it helps.

SteveB2187 · 01-17-2013, 01:51 PM

It's possible that your PPK/S may have been made in Germany and imported by Interarms if a "Made In (West) Germany" is stamped somewhere on your gun. (Usually on the left side of the gun.)

However, if the words "Under License Of" is stamped above Carl Walther Waffenfabrik Ulm, then it was made by Interarms/Ranger in the U.S.

Any photos that you could share?

Martin · 01-17-2013, 02:29 PM

Steve, the serial number is not a Walther/Ulm number. It's Ranger...

Thomas: User MGMike offered some manuals of older Interarms/Ranger PPK/S for sale.

FS: Original Walther Manuals

SteveB2187 · 01-18-2013, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin

Steve, the serial number is not a Walther/Ulm number. It's Ranger...

Ahhh . . . I completely missed the OP's mention of the actual serial number.

Martin · 01-18-2013, 12:25 PM

No problem

It's a known problem, that sometimes people "pitching" with some problems but later were never seen for yonks. Hope, OP refutes me...

newattitudes · 01-19-2013, 09:26 PM

Sure could my friend.I been trying with special markings,different ideas & web sites but no luck.I am probably going about it all wrong? I took her to the range for the first time yesterday,,found that she likes to shoot a little high.The range owner says it came from Germany through Interarms???? which didn't help much.

searcher451 · 01-19-2013, 10:41 PM

His reference was that the pistol was made on the other side of the pond, but the importer was the Interarms company in Virginia.

Unless, of course, it was made here by Interarms/Ranger as opposed to merely imported by Interarms.

Martin · 01-20-2013, 01:46 AM

~1980 it was to expensive to import the PPK/S into the USA, so Interarms in cooperation with Ranger started to produce a licenced copy in the USA.

According to the serial number your gun is a stainless steel version, right? Walther/Ulm didn't made any stainless version.

01-16-2013, 09:54 PM	#1
newattitudes Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: michigan Posts: 4	Need help with PPK/S ID Sponsored Links To whom it may concern please: I resently bought a (Carl Walther Waffenfabrik Ulm/Do. Model PPK/S Cal.9mm kurz/.380ACP) printed on one side and (INTERARMS Alexandria,Virginia) on the other side with sereal # (SOOO439). can you possibly tell me exactly where this gun was made and the date and year please.Also if possible I need a owners manual.I would be very greatful for any help reguarding this request. Respectfully, Thomas F. Brindley Share Share this post on Digg Twitter Share on Facebook Reddit! Last edited by searcher451; 01-17-2013 at 12:27 AM.

01-17-2013, 01:54 AM	#2
mako Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: DPRK Posts: 192	You can probably start here. Some websites to help PP/PPK owners ID their guns For manuals you can try Earls http://www.carlwalther.com/books.htm#Manuals Gunbroker and Ebay oftentimes have them as well. Share Share this post on Digg Twitter Share on Facebook Reddit! Last edited by mako; 01-17-2013 at 01:57 AM.

01-17-2013, 06:30 AM	#3
Martin Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Germany Posts: 721	There is no list to date an Interarms/Ranger (=> Gadsden, Alabama, Mid-South Industries Inc.) gun, but you'll find a thread with reported serial numbers here. After some research (just for you ) I found a number near to yours (S000944): Test target date 8/9/83. A manual for the Walther PP/PPK you'll find here. It's not exactly what you want but it helps. Share Share this post on Digg Twitter Share on Facebook Reddit! newattitudes likes this. __________________ "Si vis Pacem Para Bellum"

01-17-2013, 01:51 PM	#4
SteveB2187 Supporting Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Prescott, AZ Posts: 107	It's possible that your PPK/S may have been made in Germany and imported by Interarms if a "Made In (West) Germany" is stamped somewhere on your gun. (Usually on the left side of the gun.) However, if the words "Under License Of" is stamped above Carl Walther Waffenfabrik Ulm, then it was made by Interarms/Ranger in the U.S. Any photos that you could share? Share Share this post on Digg Twitter Share on Facebook Reddit! newattitudes likes this. __________________ Steve P5 PPK 7.65mm (pre-war 1939) P99 9mm (gen 1 anniversary edition) P38 (post war) Three P1's

01-17-2013, 02:29 PM	#5
Martin Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Germany Posts: 721	Steve, the serial number is not a Walther/Ulm number. It's Ranger... Thomas: User MGMike offered some manuals of older Interarms/Ranger PPK/S for sale. FS: Original Walther Manuals Share Share this post on Digg Twitter Share on Facebook Reddit! __________________ "Si vis Pacem Para Bellum"

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01-18-2013, 12:25 PM	#7
Martin Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Germany Posts: 721	No problem It's a known problem, that sometimes people "pitching" with some problems but later were never seen for yonks. Hope, OP refutes me... Share Share this post on Digg Twitter Share on Facebook Reddit! __________________ "Si vis Pacem Para Bellum"

01-19-2013, 09:26 PM	#8
newattitudes Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: michigan Posts: 4	PPK/S Sure could my friend.I been trying with special markings,different ideas & web sites but no luck.I am probably going about it all wrong? I took her to the range for the first time yesterday,,found that she likes to shoot a little high.The range owner says it came from Germany through Interarms???? which didn't help much. Share Share this post on Digg Twitter Share on Facebook Reddit!

01-19-2013, 10:41 PM	#9
searcher451 Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Oregon Posts: 15,705	His reference was that the pistol was made on the other side of the pond, but the importer was the Interarms company in Virginia. Unless, of course, it was made here by Interarms/Ranger as opposed to merely imported by Interarms. Share Share this post on Digg Twitter Share on Facebook Reddit! __________________ Searcher 451 Μολὼν λαβέ Last edited by searcher451; 01-22-2013 at 10:03 AM.

01-20-2013, 01:46 AM	#10
Martin Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Germany Posts: 721	~1980 it was to expensive to import the PPK/S into the USA, so Interarms in cooperation with Ranger started to produce a licenced copy in the USA. According to the serial number your gun is a stainless steel version, right? Walther/Ulm didn't made any stainless version. Share Share this post on Digg Twitter Share on Facebook Reddit! __________________ "Si vis Pacem Para Bellum"

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