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Old 09-12-2011, 05:43 PM   #1
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AMMO +P IN THE S@W PPKS 380

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I like to ask can you shoot Plus P 380 ammo in the S@W PPKS?
I think I read somewhere it is not recommend :I carry now Winchester 95 Gr. FP FMJ white box in the 380 accuracy is outstanding .
I yet to fire any HP Ammo in the 380 Smith
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Old 09-12-2011, 06:17 PM   #2
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From the manual:

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“Plus-P” (+P) ammunition generates pressures in excess of the
pressures associated with standard ammunition. Such pressures
may affect the wear characteristics or exceed the margin of safety.
Use of “Plus-P” ammunition may result in the need for more
frequent service.

“Plus-P-Plus” (+P+) ammunition is not recommended for use in
Walther firearms. This marking on the ammunition designates that
it exceeds established industry standards, but the designation
does not represent defined pressure limits and therefore such
ammunition may vary significantly as to the pressures generated
and could be DANGEROUS.
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Old 09-12-2011, 07:46 PM   #4
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I like to ask PPKs owners by S@W what ammo do you carry in your gun for CC ?
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Old 09-12-2011, 09:08 PM   #5
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I use:

Speer Gold Dot 90gr.
Hornady Critical Defense 90gr.
Federal Hydra-Shok 90gr.

All seem to run flawlessly in my S&W PPK/S.
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Is there a SAMMI spec for 380+P?
Just curious
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Is there a SAMMI spec for 380+P?
Just curious
I just checked and, no, there is not a +P SAAMI specification for .380. Thus, that paragraph must be standard Walther material for all their gun manuals and, indeed, the exact same wording is in the manual that came with my P99c AS.
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I just checked and, no, there is not a +P SAAMI specification for .380. Thus, that paragraph must be standard Walther material for all their gun manuals and, indeed, the exact same wording is in the manual that came with my P99c AS.
So un-specified overpressure in +P 9x17 would be like +P+ in 9x19 ... beyond the specifications published, and eating into the safety margin built into the weapon.

While modern designs and materials probably are tough enough to take what would have blown up an antique (or would at least damage an antique aged and abused to the present) ... manufacturers will cut costs, so you might get less of the superior material, and not many gun builders will publish an official pressure rating for their guns ... even S&W (who I assume writes Walther manuals for the U.S.) is just using boilerplate text (no pun intended) to specify acceptable pressures for ammunition.
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