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Old 01-17-2011, 07:00 PM   #1
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This is my first post just found this forum, I was hopeing someone could help me with a gun I bought about 25 years ago and was told it was pre war. It is a Walther Mod PP 7.65mm It is hard to tell but I think it has an eagle N proof mark and stamped. Waffenabrik Walther Zella-Mehlis (Thur) Walthers Patent Cal 7.65mm ser#336647 P on the slide no import marks but I think this is a post war gun it in excelent shape (a little rough) military type finish Also wondering approx. value Thanks.
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This is my first post just found this forum, I was hopeing someone could help me with a gun I bought about 25 years ago and was told it was pre war. It is a Walther Mod PP 7.65mm It is hard to tell but I think it has an eagle N proof mark and stamped. Waffenabrik Walther Zella-Mehlis (Thur) Walthers Patent Cal 7.65mm ser#336647 P on the slide no import marks but I think this is a post war gun it in excelent shape (a little rough) military type finish Also wondering approx. value Thanks.
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Your Walther PP was made in 1944. The Eagle/N stamp on the slide and inside the ejection port is the post-1940 Nazi proof. It should have a wartime finish as you've described with either black plastic or beech wood grips. If there are no police/military stamps on the left side of the frame behind the trigger guard it's probably a commercial model. Value depends on condition of the gun, grips, and magazine(s). Photos would help to determine which variation PP you have plus make it possible to determine condition and estimate value...

If the magazine is original it will be marked like this one:



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Sorry about all those bad posts tha mag is marked like the one you showed Thanks for the reply
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I can't see the previous photos but this one looks good. Since your PP doesn't have the WaA359 military or Eagle C/F police stamps behind the trigger guard it's most likely a commercial model. The mottled blue finish is characteristic of these late war Walther PP's. From what I can see so far it's a beautiful gun...
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I traded a guy in AZ a near nib. circa 1980's PPKs blue for that gun.
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That's a nice looking pistol; thanks for sharing it. As to is value, start here:

http://www.waltherforums.com/showthread.php?t=13390

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Thanks for the info when you say it is a commercial model what exactaly does that mean. Was the gun made with intent to be sold to the public. I thought the eagle N was a military stamp and there for supplied to and carried by the military.
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Thanks for the info when you say it is a commercial model what exactaly does that mean. Was the gun made with intent to be sold to the public. I thought the eagle N was a military stamp and there for supplied to and carried by the military.
The Eagle/N is the Nazi-era commercial proof stamp. Military Walther PP's in your serial number range will have both the Eagle/N on the right slide & ejection port plus a WaA359 "Waffenamt" military acceptance stamp on the left side.

Here's a late 1944 Walther PP Military for comparision. Note the WaA359 stamp on the left frame and slide:



Commercial Walther PPs were often carried by German officers who were expected to purchase their own sidearms. It's a shame they didn't have an "Officer" stamp to make life easier for collectors...
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