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Old 04-09-2009, 10:00 PM   #11
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I'm having a very difficult time understanding the PK380 considering the PPS. The only pluses I see on the 380 is that it is hammer fired (for those who prefer that) and holds one more round and possibly price.
The 380s are softer to shoot with a longer slide on the pistol such as the Pk380 than other shorter barreled pistols. Plus a single stack is easier to handle for those with smaller hands.

I believe that the single stack 380 will be a great shooter and should appeal to a bunch of people. Anyone who want a double stacked 380 should just opt for the P99 instead.
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Old 04-10-2009, 10:19 AM   #12
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The 380s are softer to shoot with a longer slide on the pistol such as the Pk380 than other shorter barreled pistols. Plus a single stack is easier to handle for those with smaller hands.

I believe that the single stack 380 will be a great shooter and should appeal to a bunch of people. Anyone who want a double stacked 380 should just opt for the P99 instead.
I have shot .380s for many years. I have never shot any .380 that is as smooth as my 9mm PPS. The .380 tends to be snappy, for the most part. As to a single stack, the PPS is a single stack, and is more thin than the PK380. The PK380 has a height of 5.2" while the PPS is 4.4. For carry that is significant.
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Old 04-10-2009, 03:59 PM   #13
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The PK380 will be breech-lock action like the P99 and PPS verses blowback operation like the P22 and PPK.

Don't know yet how much difference this may make in the recoil 'snap'.
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I would think that the PK380, based on the differences in design between the two models, will feel less snappy than a PPK. But the only way we'll be able to tell for sure is to get our hands on one and give it a try ... and that's still somewhere down the road. At this point, sadly -- despite the Walther America website, which still states that the gun will be released in March -- all we can do is speculate.
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Old 04-10-2009, 05:17 PM   #15
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The PK380 will be breech-lock action like the P99 and PPS verses blowback operation like the P22 and PPK.

Don't know yet how much difference this may make in the recoil 'snap'.
Good point. It all remains to be seen. If the recoil is tamed it might be a decent gun. I'm hoping....
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The PK380 will be breech-lock action like the P99 and PPS verses blowback operation like the P22 and PPK.

Don't know yet how much difference this may make in the recoil 'snap'.

Good point. It all remains to be seen. If the recoil is tamed it might be a decent gun. I'm hoping
Interesting. I just submitted an email to S&W customer service asking a few questions about the PK380. One was whether the PK380 is a blowback or locked breech design. I was informed in response I received that the PK380 was a blowback.
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Old 06-17-2009, 07:57 PM   #17
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Given the delay in the gun's release and the uncertainty that has come from various points of information, we may not know for sure until we get our hands on one of these critters and make the determination ourselves ... and that may be a long time coming as well.

The latest word out of Germany, apparently, is now August, which trumps the July that S&W has been peddling for weeks now. Then again, maybe not.
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Which is a better choice and why? Thanks, Greg
My thought is that if it's made in Germany by Walther, it would HAVE TO BE BETTER than the PPK made by S&W!
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I'm still interested in whether this gun turns out to be a real Walther or a Umarex product. If it's a real Walther, great and have it. If it's a Umarex product, well, we'll have to hope that they have learned some lessons since the introduction of the original P22.

I understand the frustration with Smith & Wesson and share it. But I also wouldn't short-sell S&W and its long and storied history of making quality firearms. But that's just me.
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Old 07-28-2009, 11:06 PM   #20
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having looked at the specs i wont be trading my ppk 380 (interarms, stainless)
its smaller and a breeze to conceal even under a t shirt or in the front pocket.
I do have larger hands and several times have had the trade mark double scar on my right hand. this helps improve your grip and remindes you if you get sloppy dont like the new smiths and have never really cared for the ppk/s. its a great gun but if i want the extra butt i will also go for the extra barrel and get a pp
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