slide help please!

[m1ke513]

So I am a first time gun owner. My pk380 which is 2 weeks and 200 rounds old. The first 100 the gun fte 5-6 times(federal). The second hundred, flawless(Remington umc). I like this gun a lot alhough I'm having a problem that I can't seem to find the answer to. Maybe its not a problem but it drives me crazy.anyhow When the magazine is released and the hammer cocked back when I pull the slide it is not a smooth action. There is around an inch of smooth pull until the safety bar hits the top of the hammer. There is a bar inside the top of the slide that rides the hammer and there is a lot of pressure on the slide, so much that it will actually stick on the return. I was thinking my hammer could have been positioned to pull back farther or polished so there is no wear. Basically, is this normal? I can provide pictures if you guys need them. Thanks

[m1ke513]

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[searcher451]

Folks seem to be taken with the new PPQ at the moment and may be a bit slow getting around to this corner of the forum. I'd venture one guess, however: A post like that last one isn't going to attract many positive comments or suggestions, nor will it invite people to drop what they are doing and lend a hand. Just a thought ...

[hmott3]

dude.. you waited less then 24 hours. Hate to tell you but most of us dont' spend all day refreshing the pk380 forum. We check it every few days. Honestly most the people in the pk380 forum seem to be really new to handguns. I know I am. If you can maybe take some pix or a video I could check the function on my wifes pk380 when I get home and tell you if it does the same thing. Assuming I remember tonight, maybe it will be a few nights from now.

If thats not fast enough for you, maybe you should head to a gun store with a pk380 and check it, or call S&W.

[m1ke513]

Ive just been frustrated I have looked and looked and could not find an answer or see anybody else with the same problem. here's a look at whats going on. here's the link to the video because i could not figure out how to put it on here.

pk380 slide - YouTube

pk380 slide - YouTube

[table42]

OK, I just checked mine and it seems to do the same thing. The amount of effort it takes to move past the hang-up point is very slight, infact, I had never noticed it does this. At the end of your video, you pulled the hammer on back a little as if cocking it further, mine does the same. One thing you may NOT have noticed, is the safety spool itself. As you pointed out, the hammer is hitting this round bar known as the safety spool. But look closely at the safety spool and you'll notice it has a flat milled into one side. In the "safe" position the hammer contacts the round part of the safety spool as you demonstrated in your video, but in the "fire" position, the flat side of the safety spool is now the contact point with the hammer. So, the deflection is still present but not as much. While cleaning mine, I've identified this and other areas as lub points. The metal to metal contact points become evident very soon. When at the range, after a box or two of ammo, I'll often pull out the RemOil and hit a couple areas then keep shooting. Next time you field strip, look for other areas where metal to metal contact is occurring, there are several.

[GTIwarrior]

Just checked mine too. It seems mine only does it when I rack the slide with the hammer already back. When the hammer is down on the spool, the motion of the slide forces it back without any hang-ups. From what I saw in your video at 0:20 it appears yours is doing the same thing. If that is the case, it only has hang-ups when the hammer is already back, that appears to be normal. It wouldn't seem to be a problem either since you would rarely need to rack the slide with the hammer already back.

[m1ke513]

It will hang up with the hammer back or released, my video was not detailed enough. I have noticed the rounded edge and flat edge on the safety spool and it seems when the gun is on fire it hangs up more because the slide hits the hammer with more of a blunt edge. The rounded edge that hits when the safety is on seems to wear just a LITTLE bit less because its rounded and does not stick if you will as much. I do have a tube of gunslick and I have applied a little on the rail the hammer slides on and greased the safety spool. Just a little bit of a difference. Now that I have actually taken a closer look at the safety spool it is also being worn from it hitting the hammer while being fired and racked. Could it be the hammer? There is a little bit of the hammer spring sticking out of the back of the pistol does that seem normal to you guys? What about the slide sticking rearward because of the pressure on the slide from the hammer? Is it because im being to.."gentle" with it?

[nexus]

From the way the pistol sounds on the video I would speculate that there is a lack of lubrication. Try disassembling, recleaning and relubing using a grease. I had a similar issue with mine. That should help. I use Shooter's Choice. Also, and I don't really think it hurts, but your safety is in the on postition.
It's been my experience that the PK380 tends to do better when it is well lubed. Almost Wet

[table42]

And concerning the end of the hammer spring, yes it is visible and yes it is not flush with the face. You can feel the sharp edge since it is actually protruding slightly. I noticed this on others before I purchased my PK. After owning it a while I soon thought no more about it.

The safety spool, barrel and a few other parts received a black oxide treatment. It is not a plating and has no measurable thickness. It quickly wears away, exposing the bare metal. Pull the slide back and look at the end of your barrel, lots of scuff marks. The black and contrasting bare metal looks bad but it is normal. If the entire piece had been bare metal, it would be much more difficult to see that any contact is occurring. The black oxide treatment does help guard against red oxidation (rust).