in the next 2-3 week there will be the new triarii system readdy for the walther P99 AS / QA / DAO

when its readdy I will make a video and show it on www.ascev.de

Harald

Walther IPSC Team

Germany

 

That looks like some sort of a Sig Sauer stuffed in there, not a P99.

Another pistol caliber carbine trying to be a SBR AR-15. Bet it's big bucks $$$$$.

 

That looks like some sort of a Sig Sauer stuffed in there, not a P99.

That it is. An SP2022 if the picture can be believed.

 

yes its not a P99, its not readdy before 1-2 weeks, tah I will do some photos and video with the p99

 

I'm looking forward to the pics and video, that is just too cool. I'd rather get something like this for an existing pistol than buy a pistol caliber carbine, though I would really have no reason to get it. It looks like it would be fun to shoot though, and I bet recoil and muzzle flip would be next to nothing.

Is that lever on the left side used to rack the slide? Does it come with a longer barrel for the pistol? Is this coming to the USA?

 

harald,
I am looking forward to your video.

 

? - Is that lever on the left side used to rack the slide?
- yes

? -Does it come with a longer barrel for the pistol?
its only the system you have to use your own gun - I think only the silencer barrel fits in the P99

? - Is this coming to the USA?
Hera-arms ism alreaddy selling in the usa

www.hera-arms.de

 

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hera-arms in the usa

 

This pic would seem to answer the questions:

And here's the English page Hera GmbH Splash Page

TRIARII

The new world of pistol carbine conversions is now here. Hera Arms gladly announces the new Triarii. The Triarii has been designed to meet the functions and needs of today’s law enforcement/military, agency and sport users. A click and fire system has been developed to ensure that response time is reduced and maximum capability is given. With an approximate 4 second installation/ready to fire time; Hera’s Triarii can now provide needed time to any situation. We are honored to have worked with various agencies, officials and customers throughout Europe, listening to their needs and wishes, available or the Sig Pro 2022 and various Glock models.


- Sturdy platform built from highgrade Aluminum
- Integrated top, side and bottom rails for accessories
- Click and fire system
- Available for Sig Pro 2022, Glock 17/19
- Models for other pistol systems to come
- NO changing/adding components to the pistol

 

Have to say that this thing is a slick-looking gadget. If you could wire one up to a P99, or even a P5, you'd have a fun little range tool that would keep you busy for a few rounds, at least.

 

Without a 16 inch barrel, wouldn't this make a pistol into an SBR?

Really, I think this thing is pretty cool and if the price is right, and if it is legal, I'd like to own one. Have you guys checked out how easy it is to attach and detach it on that video?

 

Without a 16 inch barrel, wouldn't this make a pistol into an SBR?

I was wondering the same thing. I wouldn't buy one anyway, as I see no practical use for it considering the options I have on hand.

The only product of theirs that I will probably end up with, eventually, is the FSC:Hera GmbH Splash Page. I've got to buy a HK USC first, but it's on my list. I shot one at a range a couple of years ago and it was so much fun! It's on the expensive side for a toy, which is why I don't have it yet. I opted for a Ruger PC4 to start with. Anxiously awaiting it's arrival.

 

Harald, please send me a PM the moment you know that this is on the market!!!!

Soo cool!!!!

 

Wouldn't it be extremely difficult to line up the barrel up perfectly with "extended" barrel in this setup??

Could it just be some sort of "barrel shroud" that is a good bit bigger than the bullet, but extends past the front of the attachment??

I am sure I should probably look on the site and that will tell me. Hahah

 

The thing is pretty slick, all right:

 

"All NFA rules apply"

I'd assume that the RONI would make a pistol into an SBR as well? If that's the case, then I probably won't get either. I like the looks and the attaching and detaching of the pistol on the TRIARII better, but the RONI looks to have a shorter length of pull, which would probably be better for me.

How much do these things cost by the way?

 

"All NFA rules apply"

I'd assume that the RONI would make a pistol into an SBR as well? If that's the case, then I probably won't get either. I like the looks and the attaching and detaching of the pistol on the TRIARII better, but the RONI looks to have a shorter length of pull, which would probably be better for me.

How much do these things cost by the way?

Agreed. Without a definitive answer on the NFA stuff, I wouldn't even consider it. Besides which, I just don't see the point...I'm not likely to be looking to shoot my pistol out to 100+yds. If I'm going to carry either of these systems, I can just as easily carry a rifle.

I don't know about the Triarii, but I found the Roni at €420, which comes out to just over $605. Too much, considering what it is, at least for me.

 

Both of these are pretty mean looking!!!

 

The RONI lists at $399.99

 

I am a bit underwhelmed, it seems like a novelty item to me more than something with a practical use. I would like to know if any agency has actually adopted one of these systems, it seems to me that it would be highly preferable to have a serious carbine and sidearm in the field rather than one of these.

Also, what advantages in training would one of these bring?

 

I am a bit underwhelmed, it seems like a novelty item to me more than something with a practical use. I would like to know if any agency has actually adopted one of these systems, it seems to me that it would be highly preferable to have a serious carbine and sidearm in the field rather than one of these.

Also, what advantages in training would one of these bring?

may as well chalk this one up with the bumpfire stock thingy for AR's that costs an arm and a leg.

if i wanna bumpfire i'll hold the rifle to my side and do it.

i highly doubt ANY agency has or will adopt this system.

 

Probably cheaper to train with pistol round in a "rifle/carbine" setting.

Probably more compact for room breaching...??? Since pistol round is weaker than a rifle round by most means, would it not be practical to use them for this scenario, to reduce unwanted casualties or damage??

 

First of all, this thing IS an SBR. Prepare to fork over your $200 tax stamp. One other thing you may or may not know, if you are taking this thing from State to State, YOU MUST HAVE A LETTER OF PERMISSION FROM THE BATFE TO TRANSPORT IT ACROSS STATE LINES!!

I urge anyone interested in anything that would turn a pistol into anything but a pistol to get a copy of the ITAR rules & take a look for yourself.

Pistol rounds are no cheaper than 556 ammo for training. ALL pistol cartridges calibers SMGs (yep, the MP5s are gone) have been eliminated form the FBIs inventory. BGs have gotten up after being shot with pistol caliber weapons. They DO NOT get up after being shot with frangible ammo from an SBR AR 15 weapon.

Sourse, my FBI CT SA neighbor. They took his MP5 & gave him a 10" AR!

 

I understand the Glock fully auto is a bit of overkill, but having a semi-auto model has all sorts of possibilities.

 

I just thought it was cool.

Not $400 cool, but still. If this thing costs as much as another pistol, and I would have to go through extra paperwork just to own the thing, it is not for me. With $400, I could buy 8 factory PPQ mags, about 13 MR mags, or I could just convert a rifle I currently own.

As far as agencies adopting this, I never really paid attention to what agencies adopted. I'm on the Walther forum after all.

 

Finally the prototype is readdy.

Thursday morning 10 h we are going to shoot the prototype on a shooting range near cologne/germany

we will do some video and I will post as fast as possible.

maybe its alreaddy online thursday evening

harald

 

looking forward to seeing the videos and photos.

Maybe a future investment for a plinking application.

 

here is the new video we did this morning with the prototype from hera-arms for the walther P99 AS / QA / DAO in 9x19

 

I don't know about anyone else, but I think that thing is pretty doggone cool and would be a fun range toy. If it boiled down to one of these or a, say, P22 or PK380, it would be an easy call. No question it won't be for everybody, though.

Thanks for sharing this, Harald.

 

the first triarii will be only for the p99 as /qa/dao

there will be more coming soon
for PPQ and for the Police P99

 

Harald, is it ready for purchase yet or is it still in testing?