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Old 11-09-2016, 06:20 PM   #21
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Moon: congratulations, one of my P5's is an 11/83 with a serial # of 036xxx.

Best of luck with her, sounds like you & the P5 are getting along just fine
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Old 11-09-2016, 11:01 PM   #22
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PWArms was not a commercial Walther importer. That may have been a police trade-in with the marks removed before it was hard chromed.

It's newer than my oldest P5 by about 10,000.
As is the case with my blued P5, there is a 'BMI' with a line struck thru' it on the left side of the slide.
Does this tell us anything?
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Old 11-09-2016, 11:30 PM   #23
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That is the Bundesministerium des Inneren mark meaning the firearm was used
by an agency of the Federal Ministry of the Interior. GSG-9, Federal Police, etc.

BMI - Startseite des Bundesministerium des Innern
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It was a carry gun by a German Federal police officer - some were imported when they changed sidearms. Am looking forward to pics.
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Yes, I will try to get some posted. Good as a blued P5 feels, I never thot' it was especially handome; too many odd angles and the 'strange but useful/clever' portside lever.
The same gun in dull silver is a different beast altogether.
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The odd angles and curved surfaces is what always made it stand out to me. I love when people ask what it is I'm carrying or shooting while at the range.

They look at you with big saucer eyes because they've never heard of a Walther P5, let alone ever seen one.
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That is likely why my specimen didn't sell at the gunshow; it was pricey, single stack, and none but we Walther nuts knew what is was. It always seemed to me that the front and rear of the slide were designed by two different people.
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... It always seemed to me that the front and rear of the slide were designed by two different people.
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Moon, if you think that is a product of miscegenation, you should see the prototypes. Somewhere I have a photo of one, and it is too ugly to keep by your bedside, lest you wake up in the morning peering at it.

...which brings me to an old observation. I have a theory: Really talented gun designers usually have scant talent as stylists. Even John Browning was not a pimple on Raymond Loewy's backside. Have you ever seen a Browning design that looked sleek and racy?

Several gun designers who are accomplished inventors and engineers have tacitly admitted this to me. Recognizing that guns --in order to be commercially successful-- not only must work flawlessly but be attractive to the eye, they privately admire the less talented "stylists" who superimpose T&A on the design and make it sell. Alone among current manufacturers, Beretta understands this --though not to everyone's taste.

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I have photos of the design stages of the P5. And the early designs of the P99 as well.

Neither are the best looking pistols I've seen.
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Mike, agree that the M9/92 Beretta does have a certain sense of elegance, especially with the P38/P1 as progenitors; the P5 is downright handsome by comparison. Somehow the Germans seem opposed to enclosing the barrel in the slide (see the Luger, which is handsome and downright sinister), tho' the P5 disproves this. The current M9A1 loses some of those good looks to its Picatinny rail.
As far as good looks helping in the civilian marketplace, that was certainly true until the onset of the Glock revolution and 'plastic' pistols..... now tactical fugly functional seems to be the deal.
I've taken the pics of the P5 and have to get them posted.
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