SR22P vs P22 - brief review

[alfonzo]

The new Ruger SR 22 pistol looks to be a real winner in the
22 pistol field.

This is the first U.S. made .22 pistol made in the U.S. which closely
resembles the Walther P22 pistol.

I will be buying the Ruger SR 22 in the next month or two for sure.

I like the quality of the Ruger with an Aluminum slide and not pot zinc metal which is currently on a lot of Walther Umarex pistols in .22 lr.

It would be nice if someone with a Walther P22 and a Ruger SR 22 pistol do a comparison shooting review with 5,000 rounds each to see which pistol is most accurate, functions the best, and can take 5,000 rounds without breaking any parts.

I'll be looking forward for that review.

[bigfatdave]

Regardless of what Walther eventually does with the P22, if anything, or how the nw Ruger performs ...
... truth be told, I'd still rather shoot a Ruger Mark series pistol or a Browning Much Mark series pistol than I would a P22

Our P22 remains a good blaster, and a great point-shooting trainer ...
(I recently discovered it is a good stand-in for a pf9 as well ... and somehow heavier than a pf9, empty)
... but if I were shopping for a similar gun right now ... ... yeah, I'd get the SR22, stupid backwards safety and all.
But I still like my true target pistols, those two mkIIIs I've tinkered with and made just right for me and the Mrs are pretty hard to beat. Whenever I think about another .22lr handgun, I come back to the same thought ... I just like the mkII.5 too damn much to screw around with something else, unless it is really interesting or a trainer for a centerfire gun.

[1917-1911M]

Originally Posted by alfonzo

It would be nice if someone with a Walther P22 and a Ruger SR 22 pistol do a comparison shooting review with 5,000 rounds each to see which pistol is most accurate, functions the best, and can take 5,000 rounds without breaking any parts.

I'll be looking forward for that review.

This is easily accomplished, you boys and girls round up a SR22 and plenty of ammo....I'll send you a FFL address to ship it all too and then I'll have at for you. Won't even charge anything. Did I mention pictures for you too.... M1911

[1917-1911M]

Probably take most of a Saturday afternoon....oh yeah....I'll be needing some loaders too. My thumbs are tough..but not 10,000 rounds tough. M1911

[JimBOB]

M1911 wrote "Without significant out-sourcing Germany will not be able to compete".

I think they already are out-sourcing. That would explain why some have problems, some do not. Also I recently bought a breech block. It did not have the small guide for the firing pin, making it completely useless. The vendor checked his stock and all of them were the same way. He contacted Umarex who recalled all of them to be replaced. How on earth did their QC dept not notice the problem is way beyond me. So that tells me they tried a new source but they do not have the proper QC procedures to insure parts are made correctly. And they have not had the proper QC procedure from day 1, therefore all the problems.

That among other things is the reason for my earlier post. Umarex has already done just about everything they can to make money on the P22 with a huge success. But it will take a whole lot of money for R & D and tooling to rival the SR22 and then with the bad reputation they deservedly have they would have to sell it a lot cheaper to give a person reason to buy it over the SR22. So from a business standpoint it makes a lot more sense just to drop the P22 when sells start decreasing rapidly. The ONLY thing that would keep them on board is that the demand for that kind of firearm exceeds what Ruger can manufacture.

[1917-1911M]

Have to agree with that too. Might be talking out of my hat about something I really don't know a lot about but I think Germany is still pretty heavily unionized and that won't make for cheap labor. I'm sure they are outsourcing parts at present... M1911

[JimBOB]

PS

I should have added Umarex makes a lot of money on it's pellet and BB guns. I have 3 of them myself. Not like the P22, they are pretty good for what they are. They are made with the same zinc material as the P22 slide, which is fine for pellet and BB guns, not firearms. So they do not need the P22 to survive, they could do very well w/o it.

[bigfatdave]

Originally Posted by JimBOB

Umarex has already done just about everything they can to make money on the P22 with a huge success. But it will take a whole lot of money for R & D and tooling to rival the SR22 and then with the bad reputation they deservedly have they would have to sell it a lot cheaper to give a person reason to buy it over the SR22. So from a business standpoint it makes a lot more sense just to drop the P22 when sells start decreasing rapidly. The ONLY thing that would keep them on board is that the demand for that kind of firearm exceeds what Ruger can manufacture.

That's why they should dump the P22 entirely and go to .22lr versions or conversions of the P99, P99C, PPS, and PP-series guns.
And they should all take the same P22 magazines, so long as I'm daydreaming.

[sgseward]

Nice review. Walther and Ruger are my two favorite brands so when I got an e-mail announcement on 2 Jan about the SR-22 and decided then that I'd be getting one. I never expected that when I walked into the LGS on January 4 they would acutally have one. SO...of course I bought it.

Though we didn't do a side-by-side, we did put over 200 rounds of various types of 22 through it the next time we went to the range and I would have to say I prefer it over the P-22. Ruger did a great Job on this one.

BTW...my LGS is selling the SR-22 for $334...a good price for great little gun.

Steve

[alfonzo]

Yes, it would be a win win if Walther made a quality .22 lr conversion
kit for all their Walther P99 series.

If they were reliable, quality constructed, and fairly priced they would
sell in numbers to be financially feasible for Walther.

Just look at CZ they make a .22 conversion kit for the CZ 75 series and have for years and CZ continues to make money manufacturing and selling the .22 conversion kit after nearly 20 years.

I have one of their 22 conversion kits and they are worth every penny....

al