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Semi-Auto Comparison Info (Including PPQ)
This started out as a curiosity...and then people started throwing out more handguns, and more handguns. The end result is the following information. For those wondering how certain handguns compare to others.
__________________________________________________ _______________ So I was bored a while back and decided to compile some data on the popular compact-size handguns. I chose 9mm as the caliber for a common measure of all the handguns. Most of these handguns are available in a variety of calibers, but 9mm is very common, and easy to compare. I chose handguns I believed were in the “Compact” handgun realm. These are handguns which are large enough for range/duty use, but just small enough for reasonable CCW carry. I included a few outsiders like the G17 simply because so many people use/carry them. This list started with about 8 guns, and grew to 16. I have not endeavored to include ALL handguns, but have used most of the popular ones. While “compact”, all of these handguns retain a full sized grip, with no dangling pinky fingers, or extended magazine covers to allow a proper purchase on the handgun. When various models were available, I tried to keep size/barrels/weight similar, so I chose polymer models, and most “service” sized handguns with around 4” barrels. All of the information is provided by manufacturer websites. If it has been obtained through a 3rd party, it is noted with an asterisk. RATINGS: Ratings are assigned based on a CCW carry emphasis. Basically measuring the most “bang for your buck” in the lightest, most affordable, best capacity/barrel etc. I know that for certain conditions having a longer heavier gun can be a benefit – but not for “most” uses. I, like many people can shoot my 2.5 lb. SA revolver much better than most polymer defensive handguns, but that’s not the point of this data! Disclaimer: This is simply a curiosity-based study and includes measurable statistical data. It does not, and cannot be used to infer reliability, worth, durability, accuracy etc. OVERALL LENGTH (Generally shorter is better for the purposes of concealment) 1) XDM 3.8 (6.75") 2) PX4-C (6.8") 3) HK USP-C (6.81") 4) Glock 19 (6.85") 5) HK P30 (6.99") 6) Walther PPQ (7.1") 6) Sig P229 (7.1") 7) Steyr M9-A1 (7.2") 7) CZ 75D (7.2") 7) P250 C (7.2") 8) CZ P-07 (7.3") 8) XD-9 Serv. (7.3”) 9) Glock 17 (7.32") 10) FNP-9 (7.4") 11) Ruger SR9 (7.55") 12) M&P 9 (7.6") 13) Kimber TP2 (7.7") 14) Baby Eagle PSC (7.75") OVERALL WIDTH (Thinner is better for the purposes of concealment) 1) HK USP-C (1.14”) 2) Glock 19 (1.18") 2) Glock 17 (1.18") 2) Steyr M9-A1 (1.18") 2) XD-9 Serv. (1.18”)* 3) M&P 9 (1.2") 4) Ruger SR9 (1.27") 5) XDM 3.8 (1.28") 5) Kimber TP2 (1.28") 6) P250 C (1.3") 6) Walther PPQ (1.3") 7) HK P30 (1.37") 8) PX4-C (1.4") 8) CZ 75D (1.4") 8) Baby Eagle PSC (1.4”)* 9) CZ P-07 (1.5") 9) Sig P229 (1.5") 10) FNP-9 (1.55") OVERALL HEIGHT (Shorter overall length easier for concealment) 1) Glock 19 (5.0") 1) HK USP-C (5.0”) 1) PX4-C (5.0") 1) Baby Eagle PSC (5.0") 1) CZ 75D (5.0") 2) P250 C (5.1") 2) CZ P-07 (5.1") 3) Steyr M9-A1 (5.11") 4) Walther PPQ (5.3") 5) HK P30 (5.4") 5) FNP-9 (5.4") 5) Sig P229 (5.4") 6) Glock 17 (5.43") 7) Kimber TP2 (5.5") 7) XD-9 Serv. (5.5”) 7) M&P 9 (5.5") 8) Ruger SR9 (5.52") 9) XDM 3.8 (5.6") WEIGHT (All unloaded - Lighter generally better for carry) 1) Glock 19 (21 oz.) 2) Glock 17 (22 oz.) 3) M&P 9 (24 oz.) 4) Walther PPQ (24.5 oz.) 5) FNP-9 (24.7 oz.) 6) P250 C (25.1 oz.) 7) HK USP-C (25.6 oz.) 8) HK P30 (26 oz.) 9) Ruger SR9 (26.5 oz.) 10) Steyr M9-A1 (27.2 oz.) 10) CZ P-07 (27.2 oz.) 11) PX4-C (27.3 oz.) 12) XDM 3.8 (28 oz.) 12) XD-9 Serv. (28 oz.) 12) Kimber TP2 (28 oz.) 13) Baby Eagle PSC (29.6 oz.) 14) Sig P229 (32 oz.) 14) CZ 75D (32 oz.) CAPACITY (Standard magazine which ships w/ firearm - higher capacity better in this instance) 1) XDM 3.8 (19 rounds) 2) M&P 9 (17 rounds) 2) Glock 17 (17 rounds) 2) Ruger SR9 (17 rounds) 3) FNP-9 (16 rounds) 3) XD-9 Serv. (16 rounds) 3) CZ P-07 (16 rounds) 4) Glock 19 (15 rounds) 4) HK P30 (15 rounds) 4) Baby Eagle PSC (15 rounds) 4) PX4-C (15 rounds) 4) Steyr M9-A1 (15 rounds) 4) P250 C (15 rounds) 4) Walther PPQ (15 rounds) 5) CZ 75D (14 rounds) 6) Sig P229 (13 rounds) 6) HK USP-C (13 rounds) 7) Kimber TP2 (9 rounds) BARREL LENGTH (Longer is better, especially given size of handguns) 1) Glock G17 (4.49") 2) M&P 9 (4.25") 3) Ruger SR9 (4.14") 4) Glock 19 (4.02") 5) FNP-9 (4") 5) Steyr M9-A1 (4") 5) XD-9 Serv. (4”) 5) Kimber TP2 (4") 5) Walther PPQ (4") 6) Baby Eagle PSC (3.93") 7) P250 C (3.9") 7) Sig P229 (3.9") 8) CZ P-07 (3.8") 8) XDM 3.8 (3.8") 8) CZ 75D (3.8") 8) HK P30 (3.8") 9) HK USP-C (3.58”) 10) PX4-C (3.2") AVERAGE PLACEMENT (Measured by averaging the placement out of 18 in each of the 6 criteria) 1) Glock 19 (2.66/18) 85% 2) Glock 17 (3.66/18) 79% 3) HK USP-C (4.5/18) 75% 4) Walther PPQ (4.83/18) 73% 4) M&P 9 (4.83/18) 73% 5) Steyr M9-A1 (5.16/18) 71% 6) P250 C (5.33/18) 70% 7) XDM 3.8 (6.0/18) 67% 7) PX4-C (6.0/18) 67% 8) XD-9 Serv. (6.16/18) 64% 8) Ruger SR-9 (6.16/18) 64% 8) HK P30 (6.16/18) 66% 9) FNP-9 (6.33/18) 65% 10) CZ P-07 (6.66/18) 63% 11) CZ-75D (7.16/18) 60% 12) Baby Eagle PSC (7.66/18) 57% 13) Sig P229 (7.83/18) 56% 14) Kimber TP2 (8.16/18) 55% Last edited by Elbows; 02-19-2012 at 02:35 AM. |
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Nice write up, the FEs come with a 17 round mag and have a Lil longer barrel
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Fantastic post! Thank you for this.
PS: Please sticky this post
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Yes, excellent material here, elbows. Nice job.
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I'll probably get bored enough to add the FE model, and new guns like the FNS-9 etc. This started with 6 handguns...and rapidly spread to 18. I work night shift, and often have 2-3 hours of downtime. I had a separate list with the PPS and sub-compact guns, I'll find that too sometime.
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Outstanding contribution, Elbows. Very useful info. Thank you.
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The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the evil but because of those who choose to do nothing about them. - Albert Einstein Walther PPQ .40 S&W, P220 W.Germ, CZ 75B, FNP 45, G36, G26, LC9, SP101 3", GP100 4", Rem 870 20g |
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Very good job! We benefit when you get bored.
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Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Treasure Coast, FL
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Great comparison. But I think the weight you have for the CZ 75d (PCR) at 32oz is off. CZ USA has weight at 1.71 lbs, or 27.36 oz.
Not sure it really matters as it doesn't impact it's average at the end. Last edited by rvbgtr; 05-14-2012 at 03:39 PM. |
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You forgot all the intangibles!!
![]() Excellent list, elbows. It will be useful for many I'm sure |
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