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Old 01-08-2017, 10:52 AM   #1
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LGS just got in a P38...

an AC42...75% bluing...barrel lug proofed with Eagle 359...locking block has mismatched serial number(everything else matches)...$900.00...opinions ???

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Old 01-08-2017, 11:04 AM   #2
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Sounds high for 75% blue. How about posting photos so we can see what you're describing?
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Old 01-08-2017, 11:09 AM   #3
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my main concern was the barrel lug not having a serial number...and the mismatched locking block...???
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That's too high for that finish and mismatched block.
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I agree with Herr Walther.
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This is a good example of misplaced emphasis in evaluating used guns, or at least emphasis that is unjustified without more information about what the buyer has in mind.

Sure, if one is interested solely in the "collecting" aspect, a mismatched locking block is certainly a minus (though hardly a catastrophic tumble, as some would insist). And there are enough nice, original-finish P38s around that 75% is not something to rave about. But from a more practical perspective --if the buyer intends to shoot it-- more important considerations relate to value, such as: (a) why the original block was replaced and (b) is the replacement properly fitted? and (c) does the decocker work?

At a minimum it calls for a careful examination of the locking recesses in the barrel and slide for signs of battering or the propagation of cracks from their corners; hands-on inspection of the mechanical mating of the slide, barrel and block, which were originally factory-fitted to avoid binding or excessive slop, and give proper headspace, and function testing of the safety mechanism.

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An excellent assessment made by Mike above. After all, it's difficult to determine anything without seeing some high-definition pictures at a minimum, a full hands-on inspection by a qualified gunsmith or knowledgeable assessor being best. After all, vonAbwehr could post a picture of a reblued turkey nobody would want or a real treasure in which $900 is a steal. We just need to know more... much more.

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This is a good example of misplaced emphasis in evaluating used guns, or at least emphasis that is unjustified without more information about what the buyer has in mind.

Sure, if one is interested solely in the "collecting" aspect, a mismatched locking block is certainly a minus (though hardly a catastrophic tumble, as some would insist). And there are enough nice, original-finish P38s around that 75% is not something to rave about. But from a more practical perspective --if the buyer intends to shoot it-- more important considerations relate to value, such as: (a) why the original block was replaced and (b) is the replacement properly fitted? and (c) does the decocker work?

At a minimum it calls for a careful examination of the locking recesses in the barrel and slide for signs of battering or the propagation of cracks from their corners; hands-on inspection of the mechanical mating of the slide, barrel and block, which were originally factory-fitted to avoid binding or excessive slop, and give proper headspace, and function testing of the safety mechanism.

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Under those conditions that's too high for that finish and mismatched block.
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