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Old 04-22-2013, 09:42 PM   #1
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P38 safety does not drop hammer

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Gun functions in both single action and double action but the safety will not drop the hammer. With slide off frame and pushing down on the hammer drop does not drop the hammer. Any suggestions?
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Old 04-22-2013, 11:26 PM   #2
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The banana-shaped internal decocking lever is either worn or improperly fitted.

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Old 04-22-2013, 11:46 PM   #3
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I second MGMike's opinion. If you purchase the part, it will very likely need fitting, and it is a tedious process.
CDNN has a lot of P.1 parts Walther Gun Parts

They call it a "hammer release" $4.99 You better buy something else because they have a flat shipping fee. Or they used to. I have not bought anything from them in years, but I have always had good luck with them.
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Old 04-28-2013, 01:49 AM   #4
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X2 on CDNN for P38/P1 parts. If you need just springs, Wolf has many options for those.
I've found it a lifesaver to have a couple spring kits on hand with an extra of each spring.
Bent, tired, or lost springs on a P38/P1 can really ruin your day. (It's not hard to lose them either.)

I have also used robertrtg.com on occasion for misc parts.
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Old 05-04-2013, 12:33 PM   #5
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Not to hijack this thread, but my P38 is having the very same problem.

With the hammer down, the safety works just fine. (Locks trigger & prevents hammer from being cocked.)




However, when the hammer is cocked, the de-cocker lever only moves partially down without lowering the hammer.

Will replacing the "hammer release" part solve this problem? Are any other parts required for its replacement?


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With slide off frame and pushing down on the hammer drop does not drop the hammer.
I tried the same thing with the same results. But I did notice that if the already cocked hammer is pulled slightly more rearward, the hammer drop suddenly works.

Would that mean that it's defective or merely out of alignment/adjustment?
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I tried the same thing with the same results. But I did notice that if the already cocked hammer is pulled slightly more rearward, the hammer drop suddenly works.

Would that mean that it's defective or merely out of alignment/adjustment?
Same symptom, same problem, same solution.

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I tried the same thing with the same results. But I did notice that if the already cocked hammer is pulled slightly more rearward, the hammer drop suddenly works.

Would that mean that it's defective or merely out of alignment/adjustment?
It is not an uncommon problem. As MGMike has pointed out, it can be worn or improperly fitted - ands fitting is not too easy.
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It is a time-consuming and often frustrating job, and it is best accomplished by someone who a) understands exactly how to fit it, and b) has a handful of decocking levers from which to select one that is close to the right fit, after which hand-fitting is often required.

In the PP-series, there are NINE (9) sizes, and I would imagine that P38s are in a similar spectrum. Your chances of just ordering one, and getting one that gives the correct fit are very slim. Sometimes it's easier to swap out the hammer or the safety drum, but then you need a handful of those also.

Face it: it's a gunsmith job.

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