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Old 02-10-2012, 01:20 PM   #1
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Any info on this 1942 P38?

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I recently obtained this Walther P38. Other than discovering that it was made in 1942 (kind of obvious), I don't know much about it. All visible numbers, including on the mag, match, and the finish is original.

Can anyone tell me what the small markings signify? The pictures aren't all that great, but I hope that you can see the markings.

I have no intention of parting with this P38 but would like to learn more about it. Do all the parts look original or correct? And I am curious about its relative desirability as a collectable and possible value.







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Old 02-10-2012, 01:22 PM   #2
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Nice one.
ac = it's made by Walther.
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Old 02-10-2012, 01:32 PM   #3
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I think that slide was made by FN. I think. If I remember correctly, the ac.42 being on top of one another (referred to as "stacked" I believe) means the slide was made by FN. But then again, I may not have that quite correct.


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Old 02-10-2012, 01:42 PM   #4
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ac - Carl Walther, Zella-Mehlis, Thuringia

ch - Fabrique Nationale d'Armes de Guerre, Herstal, Liege, Belgium

marked "AC" over the year "42" This is what is called the "AC42" stack
in 1943, the lettering was changed to "AC43" in a line

Fabrique Nationale d' Armes manufactured slides which were marked with the code "FN".
Most of these slides go to Walther.
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Old 02-10-2012, 02:02 PM   #5
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Thank you for your responses so far.

Can anyone make out those markings in the fourth picture? There are three sets of symbols/numbers - symbols over the number 359. Do they tell us anything?
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Thank you for your responses so far.

Can anyone make out those markings in the fourth picture? There are three sets of symbols/numbers - symbols over the number 359. Do they tell us anything?
The Eagle over 359 is the acceptance stamp for Walther I cant see the other stamps but they are probably the same.
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Some AC43 are stacked too. There are 2 variations to the stampings. The FN slide has very large lettering.
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The Eagle over 359 is the acceptance stamp for Walther I cant see the other stamps but they are probably the same.
WaA = Waffenamt Abnahme (Ordnance acceptance)

WaA359 S/147 Sauer und Sohn Suhl 1935 - 38

WaA359 147 Sauer und Sohn Suhl 1938 - 40

WaA359 ce Sauer und Sohn Suhl 1941 - 44

WaA359 C. Walther Zella-Mehlis 1939, 40

WaA359 ac C. Walther Zella-Mehlis 1941 - 45

WaA359 Erma Erfurt
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Old 02-10-2012, 03:46 PM   #9
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The reason I stated this is that my Walther P.38 AC 44 (in line) has on the right side "Eagle over 359" followed by Eagle followed by "Eagle over 359"
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donp, it sounds as if we have the same markings.

The right side of the slide has three small stamped markings.

Two of them have the number 359 below a symbol that consists of three parallel horizontal lines and some other lines at the mid point of those horizontal lines. Is that a stylized eagle?

In between those two markings is another marking without any numbers. It consists of a wing like structure with four or five horizontal lines on the right side and a lower figure attached on the left side (that I can't quite recognize). I wonder what that figure represents??? It looks a bit like an eagle but is not at all like the other markings already described.

On the left side of the frame, directly behind the serial number, there is another 359 marking with the symbol with three parallel lines, etc. above the numbers.

Without disassembling the pistol, the matching serial number is visible in four places: on the left side of the frame, on the left side of the slide, below the barrel, and on the bottom of the mag.

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